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EFV-8 Club Forum / 1940 Ford Discussion / Brake Adjustment:

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fortyford
07-05-2024 @ 7:19 AM
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When adjusting brakes with new shoes,do you do the top first and then the bottom?I do know you start with the bottom ones dot to dot.I have been told and watched videos that I am definitely confused.This is a stock 40 of course.
Is this right or wrong?
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51504bat
07-05-2024 @ 3:27 PM
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fortyford
07-09-2024 @ 7:36 AM
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Ok, I tightend the top front shoe at top to were wheel will not turn then I go to bottom adjustment where the dots are facing each other and start tightening until wheel will move.This should center shoe correct?Some I am getting this movement but most are not?What am I doing wrong here or is some of the shoes not fitting the drum correctly?New shoes,wheel cylinders from DC.Just guessing maybe my drums are worn past limits?

37RAGTOPMAN
07-10-2024 @ 3:01 PM
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brake adjustment, made easy
years ago, a old timer.
that worked in a FORD DEALER told me to drill two OR Three 1/4 holes next to one another,to make a slot. so you can insert a feeler gauge though the hole
you do this with the drum removed and drill from the inside, just along the brake drum edge.
I used a 4 thousands feeler blade between the shoe and drum,
this worked, with no problems,
remember FORD DEALER had a gauge for doing this hard job to get it RIGHT,
make sure you back off the top adjustments
I hope this works for you, it did for me
my 2 cents 37 Ragtopman, Maine

fortyford
07-11-2024 @ 4:59 AM
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I bleed and adjusted brakes and still only have a little less than half a pedal?Is there something else I can do or check to improve my pedal movement?

fortyford
07-11-2024 @ 6:00 AM
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Can I adjust the pedal rod on master cylinder to help?

37RAGTOPMAN
07-22-2024 @ 1:29 PM
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forty FORD
how much free play in the master cylinder ???
should be about 1 inch,
if you have more then that, you can adjust the master cylinder rod,
then make sure your EMERGENCY BRAKE is FULLY OFF,
I would disconnect the emergency cables when adjustig the brakes,
after you have the brakes adjusted, you can hook the cables back up,
if they are pulling on the shoes, you will never get a full pedal
I just went though this on my 37 , it has a 42 28 brakes on it,
my 2 cents 37Ragtopman, Maine

kubes40
07-29-2024 @ 11:21 AM
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You can obtain a taller pedal by adjusting the rod at the master cylinder. Lengthening the rod gives you less pedal travel.
Keep in kind, there is a fine line between too much travel and not enough.
"Not enough" will soon show it's ugly face by your brake pedal becoming harder and harder.
That is because to the fluid that was forced out of the master when applying your brakes can't readily get back into the master.
If that happens, shorten the rod just a bit and try again.
Other things to look for when you are beneath the car is sorn linkage. If the clevis and / or pin are worn, that increases the pedal travel exponentially.

Brake adjustment is fairly straight-forward.
I believe you have a good grasp of what's required.
Two major issues that all too often show up are: 1) brake drums were not turned and subsequently are not truly round. 2) Brake shoes were not arced to drums. Thus, they won't seat properly against any drum, truly round or not.

In the "old days" drums were always turned by a competant serviceman and the shoes were always arced to the respective drum, again, by a competent serviceman.



Mike "Kube" Kubarth

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